MineZ MineZ: Origins - Part 1 Changelog!

Good job!

Tiny dock dungeon was 4 REAL

Anyways, good job
smh, am I the only one who noticed that there is a meme linked to the text before the log ?

When will the dynmap be updated?

litttt

I'd kinda prefer to know where all the stuff is, exploring isn't fun

Also, are these changes live? Can I go and do the new ghost fleet?

Woa did it actually happen? After all this waiting, all the pain I've been through, finally, finally my suffering will be over and I'll be free from the waiting. ;')

omg it's here

where do giants even spawn nowadays

https://img.memesuper.com/08fdae789...tine-quickmeme-sidious-good-meme_494-358.jpeg

Does fixing "broken" legendaries have something to do with therums strength?

I'm not really impressed with this update a whole lot at all.

From the perspective of a survival based player & a healer, I don't really see much of any changes that could benefit the survival & healer based community much at all. For a dungeoneer, this might be great, but for virtually any other player, about 15 different dungeon related changes were listed on this changelog (counting all changes to shrine as a single change and not multiple) and not only that, dungeons even got their own tab of which the majority of the major changes to origins was listed there.

Out of all of these changes, I only like the fact that there are more locations, the infection is back and that there are some build changes, but overall at my first glance, I only see a MineZ that has even worse survival based flaws given the fact that MineZ zombies still do not harm you while standing still and still do virtually no damage. Ontop of this, the armor bar that would normally display above the health does not show up, indicating that either armor is also broken,or that the armor bar just doesn't show up for some reason.

But for so far at least, I get that this update has been a long time coming, but I do not think that origins so far is the update that MineZ really needs as it just seems to be mainly a dungeon orientated update. Basically, consider these few details - The map is already cramped and dungeons are all over the place, I personally think that origins would've been the perfect opportunity to introduce new survival based challenges, extend the map further East/North/West (or even south) by however many blocks and then add in new locations there. But now, more than ever this game just seems like a dungeon runner or otherwise a poor remake of WiR within MineZ as not only have even more dungeons been added into the already cramped up map, they're also being turned into the only real purpose of playing MineZ which is NOT what MineZ was designed for at all. Initially I left a post as feedback towards the direction of which MineZ was heading in and how to make MineZ better, but it never received any response off of you (halowars) or either of the MineZ leads to alleviate the concerns brought up in that thread of which I will link here again and some quotes that I thought were well made enough for my solution and thoughts towards the MineZ problems.
https://shotbow.net/forum/threads/make-minez-difficult-again-discussion-suggestions.369856/

Basically, my thoughts sum up to the fact that I personally think that for waiting 2 years for a MineZ update, so many other things could've been done instead of just what appears to be just a dungeon update. Overall, I guess this is an update which can be appreciated for the work put into it, but it just doesn't seem like the one MineZ needed from my perspective at least. The map just seems too crowded for any new enjoyment out of the new locations, dungeons are now officially all over the place when they should be more scattered out with appropriate linear difficulty and more thought over "oh hey, I can jump over this block and feel really special about everything and win", and yet not really a whole lot to look at, the difficulty for a normal non-dungeoneer seemingly has decreased and the only real reason to play MineZ now is for a reason it wasn't even made for.

Y'know, we've been waiting for this. 2 years straight. And now, it's finally out. What was my feeling? I didn't even want to play it.

First of all, there were barely any survival changes.

With that being said, we've been waiting 2 years straight, I was full of excitement throughout all of this, but slowly, because the waiting took so long, the excitement drained. And now, in the end, all the excitement is gone already, because the waiting took SO long, the excitement eventually was gone, and in the end, after it was out, there wasn't any hype for me, it was already gone. I hoped for some survival changes, but instead, all we got was dungeons. With that being said, after waiting for all this time, I had no excitement left, no hype, and after reading the changelog, it didn't even feel special because the only changes where pointed towards dungeons, I was excited for survival, but we didn't get any of that.

After my excitement had worn out, the update came out, and after all those 2 years of excitement being drained, we eventually got this, nothing I've been waiting for.

I haven't played Origins yet, and I'm not planning to play either.

Then you're literally judging a book by how long it took to write it. Bet you haven't even seen Anvalia yet.

I think you're judging that post off of the fact that it was judging how long it took. That post wasn't just about how long origins took, it was the fact that origins was so cryptic to everyone and then when release comes around, it was just only a bunch of dungeon updates and changes made to strictly benefit the dungeon community. In addition to this, there is also the fact that even if you haven't logged on, you might've also heard negative things about the update which can very well influence an opinion. Personally I do not care how long it takes for anything to release as long as it lives up to the hype, which off of my experience, it seemingly did not so far. It's not just time that has an influence, also take into consideration of what thomas was looking for out of the update as opposed to just "Bet you haven't seen anvalia yet.".

Shrine of the Dusk:

• Removed the teleport glitch allowing people to get into the dungeon after they have died.
• Increased chances for dusk fragments in the loot room.
• Re-redstone problem rooms.
• Increased Immersion.
• Made some….minor changes.
• Added a new boss fight in the water trial room where an admin appears and murders your whole group with a sharpness 5 diamond sword

Adding to Navarr's point, what is there survival wise in MineZ? Unless you are new to the game, it takes a few weeks to learn the map like the back of your hand. Surviving isn't hard. Making survival super difficult would sap all of the fun out of the game. If I'm honest, the only thing good about MineZ is the locations and the dungeons. If the game became more survival based then I would leave it. Back in 2012 when the server was huge, survival was an aspect. Zombies, players everywhere. But shotbow has nowhere near the numbers it used to. Survival is out of the window, I'm sorry to say.